February 20th, 2009, 01:44 PM
السؤال الذي طرحه الامريكيون على انفسهم بعد احداث سبتمبر : لماذا يكرهوننا؟
اطرحه اليوم
تعليقات كراهية على مقالة ابتعاث طلبة سعوديين الى الولايات المتحدة قديمة ، من موقع الكراهية:
"كل طالب سعودي - لاحظو كل و ليس بعض - سيأتينا براتبه الكبير و حاجته لتوظيف من ينوب عنه لعمل فروضه الدراسية ، حيث هناك عدد من الناس يقتاتون على عمل الفروض لهم و حتى ما يسمى بمرحلة الدكتوراة ، و شراء الحنان من الانطباعيات الكافرات ، و هم من اعتبرهم مجلس الائمة زوجات مؤقتتات يتخلص منهن بعد دراسته"
ثم يتحدثون عن الخطر على الاخلاق منهم و الخطر الامني و ان كل طالب قد يكلف الدولة 100 الف دولار للترتيبات الامنية ضدهم
نظرة داخل نفوس بعضهم:
Each Saudi student will bring with him his large Saudi stipend, his taste for fast cars, his need to hire people to help with his homework and write his papers (a good many people make livings writing those papers, right up to the so-called doctoral level), and to buy the favors of impressionable Infidel girls who, as the imams counsel, can be regarded as temporary wives for the sake of sex, and jettisoned promptly at the end of the "student's" stay.
The mere presence of each student is disruptive, disruptive to morals, disruptive to classes inhibited, when relevant, the matter of Islam. Such students will require extra paperwork, extra monitoring by the local police. They may participate in student political organizations, pushing the Saudi line.
In other words, they are a headache and an expense. We do not need them. But they need our educational system. So let there be a special government-to-government surcharge, paid by the Saudi government directly to our government (which, in turn, may find intelligent ways to send some of that money to the colleges involved and to local police and other security agencies).
One may suggest possibly $100,000 per student, as a modest beginning. That would pay the salary and benefits (including contribution to a pension p[lan) for two police officers -- hardly an exorbitant sum.
At 10,000 students, $100,000 security surcharge per student, that amounts to $1 billion.
No, I was wrong. The damage they do to student morale, especially of all those who do their own work, the harm to the local female population, the way in which they manage to debauch so many in so many different ways -- I should have factored in that cost as well.
Let's make it $1 million per student. That comes to $10 billion a year -- considering that we have been Saudi Arabia's sole protector, and remain the sole protector of the very rich House of Al-Saud that takes in close to $200 billion a year for doing absolutely nothing, this is a very reasonable price.
While we may disagree on the amount of the surcharge, some thinking $1 million per student is too little (think of all the lawyers, police, and judges involved everytime a Saudi leaves, taking the children of his American wife with him, or beats or rapes or throws down the stairs his Indonesian or Thai or Filipino maid, or runs someone over in his Ferrari Testarossa after a night of fun), and some just a bit on the high side -- but who, what American in his right mind, knowing what intellectual and moral havoc the Saudis and other Arabs cause wherever they are students, would disagree with the general idea?
None.
Posted by: Hugh at October 23, 2005 4:09 PM
"...and to buy the favors of impressionable Infidel girls who, as the imams counsel, can be regarded as temporary wives for the sake of sex, and jettisoned promptly at the end of the "student's" stay."
-- posted by Hugh Fitzgerald
The sucker white girl thing could be played the other way.
The FBI should set up a White Quim Brigade. They would demand certain things of their hot Moslem lovers prior to paradise, in the form of audio-recorded statements of sedition before entry, and the on to a federal Sedition trial to deal with these fine young Moslem gentlemen in court for what they actually are (when you're not self-deluding).
This would be a Cultural Diversity celebration that I could not only support but would probably make me misty.
Posted by: Shaughn at October 23, 2005 4:17 PM
Some of the logic here is that allowing in these 10,000 Saudi students will Americanize them, Americanize the future leaders of Saudi Arabia. That they will go home pro-American
I think they'll party a lot here. Go to mosque from time to time. Some will do reconnaissance work for the Jihad.
Posted by: dennisw at October 23, 2005 4:18 PM
I recently heard a speech given by Karen Hughes, after returning from her diasterous Middle Eastern tour. This program has probably been in the works for awhile, but Mrs. Hughes mentioned new student exchange programs in her talking points. This influx will be interesting to watch. I hope someone will keep track of the real costs too, and not just the cash registers ringing at the busars' offices at the universities. How many Saudi students will be bringing their indispensable slaves from back home, making the USA a defacto slave state. How many men will bring wives who will need police and medical services due to domestic abuse? How many students will bring their children, whose public school education will be paid for by U.S. taxpayers? How many more prayer rooms will be demanded of universities, in the libraries and student unions? And, how many Saudi students will be arrested for drunkeness, illegal drug use and traffic accidents? Finally, how many will be arrested by the FBI for plots and activities involving terrorism? Still, the universities will whine for more well-paying Gulf Arab students and Mrs. Hughes will be happy to do her part to increase the supply part of the demand. Beam me up, Scottie.....
February 20th, 2009, 01:44 PM
اطرحه اليوم
نظرة داخل نفوس بعضهم:
The mere presence of each student is disruptive, disruptive to morals, disruptive to classes inhibited, when relevant, the matter of Islam. Such students will require extra paperwork, extra monitoring by the local police. They may participate in student political organizations, pushing the Saudi line.
In other words, they are a headache and an expense. We do not need them. But they need our educational system. So let there be a special government-to-government surcharge, paid by the Saudi government directly to our government (which, in turn, may find intelligent ways to send some of that money to the colleges involved and to local police and other security agencies).
One may suggest possibly $100,000 per student, as a modest beginning. That would pay the salary and benefits (including contribution to a pension p[lan) for two police officers -- hardly an exorbitant sum.
At 10,000 students, $100,000 security surcharge per student, that amounts to $1 billion.
No, I was wrong. The damage they do to student morale, especially of all those who do their own work, the harm to the local female population, the way in which they manage to debauch so many in so many different ways -- I should have factored in that cost as well.
Let's make it $1 million per student. That comes to $10 billion a year -- considering that we have been Saudi Arabia's sole protector, and remain the sole protector of the very rich House of Al-Saud that takes in close to $200 billion a year for doing absolutely nothing, this is a very reasonable price.
While we may disagree on the amount of the surcharge, some thinking $1 million per student is too little (think of all the lawyers, police, and judges involved everytime a Saudi leaves, taking the children of his American wife with him, or beats or rapes or throws down the stairs his Indonesian or Thai or Filipino maid, or runs someone over in his Ferrari Testarossa after a night of fun), and some just a bit on the high side -- but who, what American in his right mind, knowing what intellectual and moral havoc the Saudis and other Arabs cause wherever they are students, would disagree with the general idea?
None.
Posted by: Hugh at October 23, 2005 4:09 PM
"...and to buy the favors of impressionable Infidel girls who, as the imams counsel, can be regarded as temporary wives for the sake of sex, and jettisoned promptly at the end of the "student's" stay."
-- posted by Hugh Fitzgerald
The sucker white girl thing could be played the other way.
The FBI should set up a White Quim Brigade. They would demand certain things of their hot Moslem lovers prior to paradise, in the form of audio-recorded statements of sedition before entry, and the on to a federal Sedition trial to deal with these fine young Moslem gentlemen in court for what they actually are (when you're not self-deluding).
This would be a Cultural Diversity celebration that I could not only support but would probably make me misty.
Posted by: Shaughn at October 23, 2005 4:17 PM
Some of the logic here is that allowing in these 10,000 Saudi students will Americanize them, Americanize the future leaders of Saudi Arabia. That they will go home pro-American
I think they'll party a lot here. Go to mosque from time to time. Some will do reconnaissance work for the Jihad.
Posted by: dennisw at October 23, 2005 4:18 PM
I recently heard a speech given by Karen Hughes, after returning from her diasterous Middle Eastern tour. This program has probably been in the works for awhile, but Mrs. Hughes mentioned new student exchange programs in her talking points. This influx will be interesting to watch. I hope someone will keep track of the real costs too, and not just the cash registers ringing at the busars' offices at the universities. How many Saudi students will be bringing their indispensable slaves from back home, making the USA a defacto slave state. How many men will bring wives who will need police and medical services due to domestic abuse? How many students will bring their children, whose public school education will be paid for by U.S. taxpayers? How many more prayer rooms will be demanded of universities, in the libraries and student unions? And, how many Saudi students will be arrested for drunkeness, illegal drug use and traffic accidents? Finally, how many will be arrested by the FBI for plots and activities involving terrorism? Still, the universities will whine for more well-paying Gulf Arab students and Mrs. Hughes will be happy to do her part to increase the supply part of the demand. Beam me up, Scottie.....