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اليكم بريد الفاتيكان الصليبيين يا من تريدون نصرة نبيكم ؟

اليكم بريد الفاتيكان الصليبيين يا من تريدون نصرة نبيكم ؟


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  1. الصورة الرمزية موآآآدع
    موآآآدع

    عضو شرف

    موآآآدع غير معرف

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    • Jul 2006
    المزيدl

    September 19th, 2006, 12:52 AM

    بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
    اليوم جلبت لكم اخوتي بريد البابا في الفاتيكان فهلا دافعتم عن نبيكم وقد وجدت ايضا نوذجين لمخاطبة هولاء القوم في ما قالة باباهم عن سينا ونبينا محمد صلى الله علة وسلم

    واليكم النوذجين

    النوذج الاول
    On the 16th of September, one of the Vatican spokespeople related to the press that the Pope was sorry for any offence caused to us as Muslims. However, this did not adequately address why the original offence took place and, as a Muslim, I remain sincerely disappointed and concerned by the Pope’s original speech. At a time when Islamophobia is recognized as a profound problem by both the United Nations and the European Union, the Pope should recall that any concept of the future of Europe must take Islam into account as a European religion, not as an alien threat.


    The Pope has made it clear that his primary anxiety remains the future of Europe at a time when ethical relativism threatens to weaken its moral compass. Islam, as the religion of ‘the middle way’, celebrates diversity, within a definite ethical core. In a time when the world is searching for balance in this regard, Islam has profound lessons to teach.


    In expressing his opposition to the abuse of religion for wanton violence, the Pope should have made it clear that Muslims around the world reject such acts on the basis of their own religious tradition, irrespective of sect, notwithstanding the actions of a tiny minority of illegitimate renegades who exploit Islam for their unholy ends.


    As a Muslim, I am greatly sympathetic to these concerns, but I am deeply disappointed in how he responded to them. The Pope raised the right questions, but gave inadequate answers, choosing instead to allow the words of a medieval bigot to speak for him. That this extremist derided the Prophet, known as ‘a mercy to all the worlds’ by all Muslims, is particularly disconcerting.


    Such statements are not befitting of his office or of his person. As a Muslim, I am well-disposed to the office of the Pope, and to this Pope in particular. He opposed the unjust war in Iraq, rejected the bigoted cartoons that emanated from Denmark, and recently supported peace in Lebanon; these were honorable political positions that Muslims will not forget.


    However, instead of entertaining relative half-truths of misunderstandings and lies, he should bear witness to the absolute truth that Muslim Europeans as citizens, and Islam as a religion, are not obstacles to his mission for Europe renewal. Rather, Muslim Europeans and Islam are integral partners in that quest.





    النوذج الثاني
    All praise is to God and all of His blessings upon the Prophets,
    Peace and serenity to those who follow right guidance,

    I would like to take this opportunity to register my disappointment in the statements made by the Head of the Catholic Church, Pope Benedict XVI in his address of Tuesday September 12, 2006. In that statement he assumed the truth of claims that (1) Islam is a faith without reason; (2) that violence is intrinsic to Islam; (3) that the Prophet Muhammad (God bless him) advocated forcible conversion; and (4) that all of the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad (God bless him) can be reduced to nothing more than evil and inhumanness. Contradictions such as these, lacking any grounding in the reality of the message of Islam are not befitting the stature of the Pontifical Head of the Christian World. We have always seen the Catholic Community as a brilliant partner in maintaining as well as strengthening a moral and ethical society both in Europe and the Global Village in general. Is this a reversal to all that has been built of good relations between both communities over the past one hundred years?

    I would like to add to this my grave concern over such irresponsible actions in times of such tension as these. Times when a great many of the worlds Muslims feel that a crusade is being waged against them. Can we expect to be jettisoned back to a time of narrow-minded perspectives, where the “other”



    واما بريد الفاتيكان فهو

    benedictxvi@vatican.va


    بالنسبة للنوذجين فقد ترجمتهما بالوافي ولم اجد فيهما تلك الكلمات التي يجب ان تقال مثل التبوبيخ واللوم الشديد

    يعني ليستا شديدتين اللهجة كما ينبغي

    فمن يستطيع ان يضع لنا نصين باللغة الايطالية والانجليزية والالمانية لغة ذالك الخنزير فليتفضل

    ارجو منكم الدفاع عن سيد الانام بكل ما تستطيعون من قوة


    يجب ان نريهم حقارتهم فاذا امطروا بذالك الكم الهائل من

    الرسائل سيعرفون مدى حبنا لنبينا وتمسكنا بة

    اخواني ان العملية غير مكلفة ولن تاخذ من وقتكم الكثير

    فارجو العمل بما تملية عليكم ضمائركم

    الا قد بلغت اللهم فاشهد

    والسلام عليكم ورحمت الله وبركاتة

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  2. بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم









    بعد ان سمعتم تصريحات البابا بندكت بابا الفاتيكان الغير مقبولة بخصوص

    رسولنا الكريم صلى الله عليه و سلم في اهانة اخرى للإسلام و المسلمين

    التصريحات التي تأتي لتأكد ان الحرب المزعومة ضد الإرهاب هي ليست

    الا حرب صليبية جديدة، كما اطلق عليها مجرم الحرب بوش، ضد الاسلام

    و المسلمين و في محاولة لامتصاص الغضب الشعبي في العالم الاسلامي تخرج الفاتيكان بتصريح ان البابا لم يقصد اهانة المسلمين او ان يجرح شعورهم ..... يا سلام...!!



    لمن لم يقرأ تصريحاته اليكم بها



    http://www.islamonl ine.net/Arabic/ news/2006- 09/15/04. shtml





    يجب ان نستغل الفرصة للتعريف بنبينا و نشر ديننا

    فلنقلبها عليهم و نأتى بنتيجه عكسية و نساعد الناس أن تقرأ عن الاسلام اكثر

    و طبعا لابد من المطالبة باعتذار رسمي



    يا جماعة كلما كان عددنا اكثريكون تأثيرنا اكبر باذن الله

    واذا لم يكن لديك وقت فكل ما نطلبه منك هو دقائق معدودة في تصويت او كتابة رسالة احتجاج حتى الرسائل نكتبها لك حتى لا يكون لديك حجة لكن طبعا اذا كان عندك وقت و بتجيد اللغة يفضل ان تكتبها باسلوبك كى تعبر عن رأيك و مشاعرك الخاصة





    اليكم المطلوب





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    مراسلة بابا الفاتيكان و مطالبته بالاعتذار و تذكيره ان تاريخهم مليىء بالدماء من الحروب الصليبية والحملات الدموية للتحويل الى المسيحيه في أمريكا الجنوبية واضطهاد اليهود و استخدام البابا أربان الثاني لمصطلح الحرب المقدسة...



    يمكن مراسلته على العنوان التالي



    benedictxvi@ vatican.va



    قم بنسخ العنوان السابق في خانة ال to

    بدلا من الضغط عليه لأن ذلك يؤدي لبعض الاخطاء



    في نهاية رسالتي هذه يوجد رسالتين باللغة الانجليزية موجهه اليه اختر احدهما و قم بارسالها و يفضل ان كان لديك الوقت ان تقوم بكتابة رسالة خاصة بك



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    CNNيوجد تصويت على موقع ال



    http://www.cnn. com/2006/ WORLD/europe/ 09/15/pope. islam/index. html



    هل ينبغي على بابا الفاتيكان ان يعتذر عن تصريحاته ضد الاسلام؟



    نتيجة التصويت ليست في صالحنا





    Should Pope Benedict XVI apologize for his remarks on Islam?



    Yes

    32%
    3934 votes



    No

    68%
    8307 votes

    Total: 12241 votes






    من فضلك قم بالتصويت فلن يكلفك الا دقيقة

    لقد اخطأ في حقنا فأقل ما يقوم به هو الاعتذار



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    ABC NEWS تصويت اخر على موقع



    http://abcnews. go.com/Internati onal/popup? id=2448215





    هل ينبغي على بابا الفاتيكان ان يعتذرللمسلمين عن تصريحاته؟



    * لا . فقد اقتبس كلامه من شخصية تاريخية

    * نعم لأن تصريحاته كانت مسيئة و غير ضرورية

    * لا أدري، كانت تصريحاته خاطئة و لكن انتقادات الاعلام تفي بالغرض



    نتيجة التصويت ايضا ليست في صالحنا




    No. He was simply quoting a historic figure.



    1,906

    Yes. His statements were inflammatory and unnecessary.



    510

    Not sure. His comments were wrong, but all the negative press makes the point.



    210

    Total Vote: 2,626







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    BBC شارك بتعليقك على موقع ال



    http://newsforums. bbc.co.uk/ nol/thread. jspa?threadID= 3822&&&&&editionfiltered= 2&ttl=20060915224218



    او على احد المواقع او المنتديات الاجنبية الاخرى التي قد ترغب في المشاركة بها لتعرفهم من هو نبيك و ما هو الاسلام اليكم روابط قد يكون مفيد يمكن ان تقوموا بنشرها على منتدياتهم



    http://www.knowthem essenger. org/



    http://www.allaahua kbar.net/ misconceptions/ INDEX.HTM





    ما هو الجهاد

    http://www.islamonl ine.net/servlet/ Satellite? cid=111950354355 4&pagename=IslamOnlin e-English- Ask_Scholar% 2FFatwaE% 2FFatwaEAskTheSc holar





    و اخيرا اليكم رسالتين لتقوم باختيار احدها وارسالها الى بابا الفاتيكان





    To: Benedict XVI; the Pope of the Roman Catholic Church



    We, the Muslim people, would like to object to your recent comments about our prophet Mohammad and our religion…

    Your comments illustrate your complete ignorance of our religion …



    We demand an immediate apology to all Muslims and to be more considerate next time…



    Let me remind you of this



    "VATICAN CITY (CNS) – The Vatican, commenting on a series of satirical newspaper cartoons that have outraged Muslims, said freedom of ___expression does not include the right to offend religious sentiments."



    What do you call this? Hypocracy?



    I also I don’t accept the claim that you did not mean to offend Muslims or to insult our prophet.



    Having read the whole speech, I really fail to see how a 600 year old quotation describing Muslims as evil and inhumane is at all appropriate in the context of this speech. It just seems to be a dig at Prophet Mohammad to me, and to all of us.



    It is also funny that you have chosen to quote a Byzantine emperor whose family had to flee Constantinople due to the attacks by the crusaders. Even in the 15th century attempts at starting a Latin crusade failed as "the Greeks thought that the Byzantine civilization which was centered at the Orthodox faith would be more secure under Ottoman rule, and preferred to sacrifice their political freedom in order to preserve their religion" --- extracted from wikipedia





    It is also a fact that far more non-believers have been killed by Christians than any other world religion…!!!



    The Church has no right to point a finger at any religion after all the blood-stained conversions in South America and after the coercion of the church by Hitler's regime to exterminate Jews.



    Your quotation was an essential part of Christian propaganda to justify the crusades with no basis of truth. A closer look at history will show you how great tolerance was shown by Muslim rulers to other religions.



    And finally let me provide you with a couple of versus from the Qur'an that PROOF that Islam is a religion of peace and was never spread by the sword



    "Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error"[Al-Qur’ an 2:256]



    "Allah commands justice, the doing of good, and liberality to kith and kin, and He forbids all shameful deeds, and injustice and rebellion: He instructs you, that ye may receive admonition." (An-Nahl: 90)



    “But if the enemy inclines towards peace, do thou also incline towards peace and trust in Allah.” (Al-Anfâl: 61)



    “Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits”.



    *{O you who believe! Stand out firmly for God as witnesses to Justice; and let not the hatred of a people cause you to swerve from justice; be just; that is the closest to piety}* (Al-Ma'idah 5:8).



    "if they let you alone, and did not wage war against you and hold out their hands in peace towards you, then Allah has never sanctioned you to wage war against them." (An-Nisa': 90).

    Finally, Muslims do not attack others unless they attack them first. The Qur'an says what means: *{Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not, aggressors.} * (Al-Baqarah 2:190)



    Regards,





    الرسالة الثانيه من احد الأعضاء



    To: Benedict XVI; Popes of the Roman Catholic Church



    In a very critical era in man-kind’s history where violence is nourished by extremists and calls from wise people to peace to prevail, we the undersigned have been shocked as many other millions of Muslims over the world by the statement you have said in your lecture in Regensburg University during your last visit to Germany about Islam and Prophet (Muhammad) PBUH.



    We, the Muslims, respect Christianity as a religion from God that came before Islam and our faith is not complete until we believe in Christianity as a religion from our God and Christ as a messenger of God (Allah).



    You have criticized Islam and the Islamic concept of Jihad as unreasonable and against God's nature..!!



    Not only that, but also quoted (i.e. you like to say) that prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), the last messenger from God, did not bring any good but evil & inhumane things.



    You have portrayed Islam as a religion which endorses violence, where faith is "spread by the sword".



    Sir, we want to tell you that these remarks are unacceptable and demonstrate ignorance &/or dishonesty of the Islam faith. We invite you to read and learn more about Islam.



    You mix between a great religion established more than 1400 years ago and have followers of more than 1500000000 (one and a half billion) believers over the world and violence.



    Islam invites people to peace, tolerance, equality & justice.



    I want to tell you that at the moment you spread hatred against Islam, it is the highest religion in the world that have new believers from other religions joining it through talking only, not by sword as you said. Only because they believe as we believe that Islam is the last religion from God and that Islam is a great faith.



    The history of the Roman Catholic Church had violent chapters. After the bloodstained conversions in South America, the crusades in the Muslim world, the coercion of the Church by Hitler's regime, and even the coining of the phrase 'holy war' by Pope Urban II, I do not think the Church should point a finger at extremist activities in other religions.



    In your speech you overlooked the fact that Islam was the cradle of science and that Muslims were the first to translate Greek philosophers before they became part of European history.



    As you said that, we did not hear you asking the killers of innocent Muslims in Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon & Palestine to stop killing them. You did not take any measures to protest or to prevent that. Those killers of hundreds of thousands of Muslims are mainly Christians Sir...!!!



    We demand that you retract any wrong to Islam and the prophet of Islam immediately and clearly.





    Regards,







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  3. ياشباب لابد ان يكون الرد علي علم ودلائل ووقائع وبراهين مو بس مع الخيل ياشقراء واظن كثير من الناس يقومون بانسخ وللصق بدون معرقه الموضوع ياشباب الرسول صلي الله عليه وسلم تلقي الاذي من خاره اليهودي وكان لاشتم ولايلعن ولايسبه ولكن بطيب اخلاقه عامله فنحن لازم اذا انت يايها المسلم الذي تدافع عن نبيك لابد من معرفه اسلوب تعامل الرسول صلي الله عليه وسلم علي احسن الاخلاق ليس علي الهجوم والشده والغضب لا ثم لاثم لا اخواني الذين يكتبون باللغه الانجليزيه لابد ان يكون لهم دور في ارسال رسائل توعيهم وتوجههم علي مبداء النصيحه وتبين لهم انا لاسلام اخر الاديان ولا دين بعده وتكتب من دلائل من القران ولاحاديث النبويه ........................................ اللهم لك الحمد علي نعمه الاسلام ياب العاليمن ولاتضلنا ابدان عن طريق الاسلام يااااااااااااااااااااااارب
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